About 50 Alliance players standing over 8 to 10 Horde corpses in Wetlands — not a battleground, but the live world on day 4 of WoW: Forever's launch. The scene was described by Loen, a Horde player on the RP-PvP realm, in a post on Blizzard's official forums at 14:12 Beijing time (06:12 UTC) on November 8: "right now there's about 50 alliance in wetlands camping 8-10 horde bodies." His thread title carries a bolder number still — he claims Horde makes up just 20% of the realm.
Two more threads in the same forum category, posted within an hour, point the same direction. At 13:59 Beijing time, Chilly posted that world PvP on the PvP realm is effectively gone and there is no faction balance to speak of, saying a promise of faction balance went unfulfilled. At 14:15, AlAssad offered a fix instead of a complaint: open character creation to both factions on PvP realms and let players balance the population themselves. As of 14:48 Beijing time, Loen's thread stood at 15 posts from 11 participants — half an hour after it went up — none of them from Blizzard, and it kept climbing: 17 posts a few minutes later.
"20% Horde" is one player's claim — Blizzard has never published a number
The 20% figure rests on the original poster alone; another player questioned it in the same thread, and Blizzard has never released population data for either side of WoW: Forever. The background to compare against: on October 28, during pre-purchase name reservations, three threads on the same forums reported Horde character creation on the PvP ruleset being blocked with a "population imbalance" notice. The reservation window closed at 23:59 Beijing time on November 3, and the servers opened on November 5. From that lock to today's corpse camps in Wetlands, Blizzard has published no imbalance data and has not responded to any of the three new threads. Whether rulesets other than RP-PvP currently accept Horde characters is likewise not announced — the character-creation screen remains the only reliable source on that.
The player proposal: open both-faction creation on PvP realms
AlAssad's plan is to let players create characters of both factions on PvP servers, on the reasoning that most players want characters on both sides anyway, and that locking creation only freezes the current numbers in place and discourages the smaller faction — in his view, an excess of nostalgia. His thread has 3 posts from 3 participants so far, and Blizzard has not responded; there is no sign yet that the faction-separated realm design inherited from classic WoW is under review.
What Horde players can do now
- If you care about world PvP and haven't settled on a ruleset, don't pick one from forum posts alone. Whether a ruleset currently accepts Horde characters is best read off the character-creation screen — test it with a throwaway character before you commit.
- If you're already on the RP-PvP realm, add your own observations to the threads — online counts, map encounters, specific time windows. With no official data, player-side corroboration is the only yardstick: Loen's corpse-camp thread, Chilly's state-of-the-realm thread, and AlAssad's proposal.
- Hold off on quoting "20%" as established fact until more samples land, and watch for a blue post — if Blizzard responds, it will land in those threads or the WoW: Forever forum category.